First I want to thank you for this project. Some people from HN say that we don't need HN for Europe, HN still can be used for all countries. But in my opinion, for some reasons we do need a website like this. But for now, It needs some corrections:
Spacing
Please make a space bar on the left just like HN. All threads start just from the 1 pixel and from usability perspective it's annoying to eyes.
Please seperate the comments from each other by space. There is no space and visually I cant separate them from first look.
Commenting
Why do I need to click to the comment button to comment on thread? Please make the opened comment box by default.
Instead of Comment button write it reply, when it's a reply to another comment.
Structure
Where are user profile pages? How I will contact to the user?
Where is karma points?
Where is ASK page? I know, it doesn't need to be HN clone but Links and ASK threads must be separated.
Please make the background a little yelloish. It's hard to read with high contrast.
What's the name of site Hackful or Hackful Europe? How do we call it, HE or HF?
Where is search?
Can you also add post title to browser title?
Will there be a "Who is hiring" thread? It would be quite interesting to finally have a thread with job postings I can actually apply...
Please use hackful.eu, not hackful.com - the hackful.com domain doesn't communicate what this is all about...
I think that's a good idea, would like to vocally add support to that.
Using .eu will be confusing, because it is for the European Union, not for Europe. This TLD sends IMO a signal of exclusion to everyone outside the union.
I second the request for whitespace between comments and a bit of margin space, so that the site is easier to read.
Personally, I'd like to see profile pages, even as simple as on HN - so that one can write few words about oneself, and maybe put some contact data.
EDIT
As DeuxExMachina suggested in http://hackful.com/posts/72, HE will need a poll system sooner rather than later. Which, by the way, brings me to another point - I wanted to link to DeusExMachina's comment, but I couldn't. So, I think links to particular subtrees of the discussion would be welcome.
EDIT2
EDIT3 - Funny misfeature - try to edit your comment and click the "Back" link at the bottom - you'll get a list of all comments on the HE. :). - Ability to delete one's comments would be nice. I find myself using it from time to time on HN - sometimes I tend to write faster than I think. - Make textboxes longer by default. See: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/216352/HE/textfieldtooshort.png - title box is annoying to write in, because it's too short. - While we're at it, a different color for URLs would be helpful.
EDIT4 - Custom CSS (and screenshots) here - http://hackful.com/posts/117 - fixes some problems mentioned in this topic. I put it also as an illustration for some of those suggestions.
Points 1, 2, 3, 4 are already done. Thanks!
I think a Europe-focussed version of HN is a great idea. I'd caution from adding an excessive amount of features however. HN's simplicity is something I find really charming given the state of modern web development.
+1 for user profile pages. Having read an interesting comment I frequently want to find more of this persons work / musings.
Stay away from Karma. It only encourages flamewars. Personally I think the idea of only showing your own comment scores is a great one. If you have to implement it do it silently.
Agree. It will be tempting as the feedback comes in to dive into feature after feature. I advise you not to. Take some time and reflect before adding any new feature. Every feature you add, you'll have to maintain.
I do agree that design could benefit from a bit more whitespace to make things more readable.
Instead of just proposing stuff, we should get started contributing: https://github.com/8bitpal/hackful
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There is a small bug in the code: when you upvote, the page jumps
I think this looks good:
Screenshot: http://bit.ly/wzpmYR
CSS: https://gist.github.com/1732365
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- HTTPS support?
A responsive design or a mobile friendly version is a must.
Thanks for the initiative
Awesome. I hope this serves the EMEA region (at least English speaking parts) we do not need another one for Africa
I'd ask for reply notification in addition to the other formatting comments.
Please no downvotes. If some thing is offensive, flag it. If not let it remain on 0 points if no one agrees with it.
Greetings from Nigeria. :)
Make it possible to cancel posting and remove the box.
Do we really need karma points? I find them childish and they tend to turn posting stories/comment in a minigame. Points for individual stories/comments make sense to curate the content, but having a "high score" per user never made any sense to me.
All it does is promote groupthink and may discourage some people to post dissenting (and yet possibly insightful) comments. And trolls gonna troll anyway.
We need karma points for downvoting. And without downvoting the website will not live long.
You don't need "karma" points to downvote. You need comment/story score (and a downvote arrow :).
Karma points are a meta-score given to a user that is supposed to represent the quality of their contributions. I argue that it's a bad metric, can be easily gamed and tends to degrade the quality of the discussions rather than improving it.
EDIT: I just realized you meant that you'd get the possibility to downvote posts after attaining a certain karma score as in HN. Well you can still monitor this on the server side without displaying it to the users to prevent the "gaming" behaviour. You could also use an other metric, such as "you can downvote after having registered for XXX days or after lurking XXX time."
It'd make more sense in my opinion, and that's pretty much how slashdot does it (with moderation points, and it works for "upvoting" as well).
I like HN a lot, mind you, but I really don't think its moderation system is the best out there and should be considered gospel.
Agreed. Just have a score per comment. Nothing else is needed. Maybe allow people to downvote once they've posted N comments and not had them downvoted themselves.
upvoted for good karma against karma...
We have used a rating system for our entrepreneurs community at lion, it helps to have authority I think in my view.
agree. Karma leads to idiotic comments and mediocracy. Having points on a per comment basis is cool, but don't start summing them for users and have a TOP Leaderboard etc. All it shows is who are the most prolific commenters.
First off, thanks for setting this up. I think it is worthwhile to have a european centric HN.
I would like to have seen an OAuth login rather than yet another account to half remember, even though it was low-traction to actually sign up.
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It would be also useful to have a "search" form. On the top-right would be perfect!
It would be really nice to have a tagging system for articles. Thats a feature I always missed at hn.
Is an RSS Feed available?