Is it ok to post articles in other european languages?
Since this board is supposed to be EU-centered and google translate does an ok job of translating foreign languages, I wondered if we could post articles in german, french, polish or whatever on this board.
It might also help differentiate this board from HN, at least in content.
I would vote for yes with the exception that these posts have a language shortcut like [de][fr][pl] or whatever in the headline.
So if I cannot understand german/french/polish ... it is in most cases not worth to click the link.
I completely agree.
In fact, at the time of submission there should be an option just below the title to optionally choose the ccTLD which would be displayed like so in the thread screen or front page:
[DE] Hackful ist besser als geschnitten Brot!
I also hope they own the hackful.eu domain...
But given they don't own even the Twitter entry, I am not optimistic. Whoever chose the name should have done their research on available web infrastructure first...
We have the twitter handle @hackful and we have hackful.eu
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yes, i'm in too.
Prefixes like [de], [fr] etc. for all non-english languages would be fine! Since we're all from europe, this should work fine. :)
Edit: i just posted a "example": http://hackful.com/posts/92
strongly agree
It would be neat to have auto-redirect to google translate for languages not listed in a profile. Then you can simply click the prefixed link if it sounds interesting enough.
I agree with the idea of Prefixes, and maybe also a way for us to then filter out prefixes for languages we dont understand, or some sort of the Google Translate integration for people who only speak english to be able to join in.
This should do (most of) the work: http://translate.google.com/translate_tools
Agree with this. I can only speak English and a little Spanish but think this is a great idea. Google translate will auto-kickin anyway if you're using chrome, enough to get the gist of it I'd wager. Part of the reason I love Europe so much is it's diversity, language being one part of it. A 'hacker news for europe' shouldn't limit to English only.
As others have said a filter would perhaps be useful too if people don't want "the noise" of languages they don't grep.
My vote is for yes, I'm all-for multilingualism and extra vantage points it would bring.
But I would vote for all comments to be in English, unless necessary. Presumably everyone here does have some command of English, the language of business, and that way non-speakers of the language the article is in can participate in and benefit from the conversation. Otherwise it just turns into disparate, fragmented groups of native speakers.
I vote for submissions in other languages, clearly marked, but all comments in English. Otherwise it will become impossible to create a community.
I'd say yes, with the caveat that posters have to provide a summary in English.
as a person from the uk who's interested in european languages I'd love to see a variety of different language articles here. I'd be especially happy if some norwegian or swedish tech articles came out of the woodwork.
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[pl_PL] Ja te? jestem za :).
Oh, here we go. Broken Unicode support in forms? :(.
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Should be fixed now.
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yeah, funny: everybody says yes, but everybody's replying in English :)
(I know French and Italian and can read Spanish and Portuguese, but I have the feeling that most interesting people from these countries will contribute in English)
I think that this question shows the need to have, sooner or later, a poll system. The thread might end with a lot of yes/I agree/no/I don't agree and it will become hard to count them all.
reading an article through google translate can be quite challenging depending on the topic. So I'm not sure if that's a good idea. Otherwise you are right, it would differentiate Hackful from HN.
It's true it's not perfect, but native speakers might give the key points in the comments. It might help broaden our horizon, otherwise I'm afraid it'll turn into Hackful UK. I'm sure there are tons of very interesting articles in the non-english websphere that I'd love to discover.
Most english-language "hacker" stories will be submitted in HN anyway, so that means HE will only get the local start-up stories. I guess it could be useful, but that feels a bit narrow to maintain a community.
I'd also add in a maybe more personal note that I believe that the diversity of language and cultures throughout europe is one of our strength as europeans. Reducing this site to the english-language web seems a bit narrow minded to me. But I'm really into linguistics, so it might just be me :).
Why should you need to ask? Just do it! If people find it valuable, they will use it. Just bear in mind that Europeans are more educated than the Brits. i.e. all of Europe learn English and other languages are (as a result) less universal
Quite a inelegant way of putting it. I'm not a Brit, but saying That the British are less educated because they don't master a second language as other Europeans do is quite a stretch.
Brits don't have the opportunity to master a second language. Most Europeans on this board have a THIRD. There is a gulf in education.
The most useful differentiator IMHO will be that hopefully there isn't a glut of US politics posted here. HN has become next to useless as it's degraded in quality and ended up as a 'reddit lite'.
No need to vote, just post in whichever language you want; as always, know your audience
This would bring up some problems. I would vote yes if and only if the languages could be separated from each other. Could it be [languagecode].hackful.com or a setting where I can filter out the languages I don't understand. On the other hand, the system needs to be fair to languages with a different size of population. In the end it has to be a system where a latvian post has to be able to make it to the top for people that only speak latvian and english, even though english posts will get many more votes.
I wouldn't mind, but then I'd like to be able to filter out crap I don't want to read.
I would prefer English only. I want to know what's going in Europe as a whole. If we cannot communicate in one common language then we are in a way restricted to our own country. If someone writes an article in another language, ideally they could post here a title/link to it translated in English with a note that the article is DE/FR/IT etc. Having a feed of all the various European languages would be a mess.
I think it would be important to have a common language. As others have said, links to pages in any language are fine (and very much the rule) but it would be better if the comments were mainly in English. I am not an English native speaker myself and can read and write in several European languages but there are so many others I don't and I guess that would be the rule with everyone else here. If the forum is fragmented it looses much of its current appeal because it reduces the amount of knowledge that is shared. I see many proponents of automated translation but I would say it is not possible to participate in a serious discussion using Google translate as a proxy (although it would be very entertaining).