I'm curious: is there a sentiment against 37signals? I quite like them, they're building great stuff. Maybe the recent "scandal" was a bit of an overreaction but I see their point.
Wouldn't that rather be a reason to not like the Fanboys instead of the company? I think Apple is very successful at their business model. I wouldn't do it that way and there are things to criticise, but I don't dislike them for people being fanatical about them. I don't like the fanatics.
Well, as they have become more popular more people notice them.
From my point of view 37signals seems to take themselves and their practices too important and it really comes through in all their writings.
I think if somebody who's never heard of 37signals looked at this page first and then at the original one, they would see how close 67signals is actually to the truth.
It's hard to attack fans, but easy to attack a static target like a company.
Personally I have pretty mixed feelings about 37signals, so you shouldn't take me too serious.
37Signals are releasing a ton of "state some obvious advice" articles, because they are about to launch a new product. This advertising gets lapped up by fanboys on HN.
Personally, I think they make mediocre products, and give pretty bad advice. For example, they're heavily against advertising income, even though most of the internet runs on advertising income.
They also do crazy stupid things, like attacking a couple of guys at Google who made a clone of Campfire in a weekend. Apparently 37signals think they own the rights to making a chatroom. They got Google to shut it down for god sake!
IMHO Their business is pretty much built on fanboyism. I'm not sure they'd really be successful if they didn't do quite so much self promotion. Their advice is either obvious - "Listen to your customers", or non-transferable (Only applies if you've built a big fashionable framework like RoR).
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This is better - http://73primenumbers.com/ - because it's underdoing the underdoers.
Hilarious - excited about my free trial of Trailer Park...
This is so evil :D
I'm curious: is there a sentiment against 37signals? I quite like them, they're building great stuff. Maybe the recent "scandal" was a bit of an overreaction but I see their point.
37signals stories on HN get on the frontpage no matter the quality. People have never liked "fanboyism".
Wouldn't that rather be a reason to not like the Fanboys instead of the company? I think Apple is very successful at their business model. I wouldn't do it that way and there are things to criticise, but I don't dislike them for people being fanatical about them. I don't like the fanatics.
Just seems like a childish reaction to me.
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Well, as they have become more popular more people notice them. From my point of view 37signals seems to take themselves and their practices too important and it really comes through in all their writings.
I think if somebody who's never heard of 37signals looked at this page first and then at the original one, they would see how close 67signals is actually to the truth.
It's hard to attack fans, but easy to attack a static target like a company.
Personally I have pretty mixed feelings about 37signals, so you shouldn't take me too serious.
37Signals are releasing a ton of "state some obvious advice" articles, because they are about to launch a new product. This advertising gets lapped up by fanboys on HN.
Personally, I think they make mediocre products, and give pretty bad advice. For example, they're heavily against advertising income, even though most of the internet runs on advertising income.
They also do crazy stupid things, like attacking a couple of guys at Google who made a clone of Campfire in a weekend. Apparently 37signals think they own the rights to making a chatroom. They got Google to shut it down for god sake!
IMHO Their business is pretty much built on fanboyism. I'm not sure they'd really be successful if they didn't do quite so much self promotion. Their advice is either obvious - "Listen to your customers", or non-transferable (Only applies if you've built a big fashionable framework like RoR).
They're making bazillions with todo lists. Some people work their asses off solving much harder problems not even coming close to success.
Any other parody sites people know of?